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Old 02-25-2008, 05:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm relatively newcomer in the world of tractors. However I have done a great deal of research over the past several months, and I'm looking to take the dive within the next month or so. I've honed into the EX3200 for it's features, quality, with a proven power plant and improved design features over the comparable JD790.

Uses: I'll be using the tractor for general ground maintenance, I have about 27 acres, with a mix of fields, hills & woodlands. I intend to purchase a Brush hog and a box scraper in addition to the TLB.

Now on to the actual Question part... Since I will be using PTO attachments, I was looking for a solid but east attach/detach system for the backhoe which specifically mounts to the main frame (for greater strength & durability). I haven't been sold on the competition's design of providing a subframe attachment system, which can be very time consuming when removing and re-attaching. I have also been advised against a PTO mounted Backhoe's, they simply do not provide the rigidity of mainframe or subframe connection.
Am I correct in assuming that the EX3200 provides this "happy medium", can anyone out there, provide me with the potential pro's and cons of the EX3200's apparently unique quick attachment design?
 
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Old 02-25-2008, 06:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Many manufacturers now have a "quick attach" backhoe mount. There is a "4 point" subframe that is permanently bolted to the tractor frame, and the backhoe connects to that at the back of the tractor. That connection is called "quick attach" because it is typically able to be done in 5-15 minutes with no tools. You'll get closer to the 5 minute hookup with a little experience.

Some of the "smaller" companies still use a system that requires you to remove the entire subframe that runs along the length of the machine when you remove the backhoe, though they seem to be moving toward pin attachments to aid in quicker removal. I believe the EX3200 backhoe is the more convenient attachment system where the subframe stays on the tractor all the time, and doesn't hang down so low under the tractor frame, but I haven't seen the backhoe in person.

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27 acres...you will probably discover you want a LARGER tractor...

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Thanks for your recommendation, however I am a property developer, and the 27 acres consist of 28 remaining individual parcels. currently I only have approximately 6 "mowable" acres, because the plan was designed to provide a natural unspoiled look. I need the tractor to maintain the retention ponds, road side and existing orchards, until now I have made do with an atv, a powered brush hog for the mowing and hired help for the rest, which is becoming costly. Since the property was once an apple orchard, a larger tractor would be too cumbersome to navigate around the apple trees, plus with the market the way it is right now, I have to watch the pennies!!!!!
 
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Many manufacturers now have a "quick attach" backhoe mount. There is a "4 point" subframe that is permanently bolted to the tractor frame, and the backhoe connects to that at the back of the tractor. That connection is called "quick attach" because it is typically able to be done in 5-15 minutes with no tools. You'll get closer to the 5 minute hookup with a little experience.

Some of the "smaller" companies still use a system that requires you to remove the entire subframe that runs along the length of the machine when you remove the backhoe, though they seem to be moving toward pin attachments to aid in quicker removal. I believe the EX3200 backhoe is the more convenient attachment system where the subframe stays on the tractor all the time, and doesn't hang down so low under the tractor frame, but I haven't seen the backhoe in person.
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Thank you for your very informative response. Can anyone attest to this design feature? I'm looking for the pro's & cons .
 
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Thank you for your very informative response. Can anyone attest to this design feature? I'm looking for the pro's & cons .
Kevin Emerich has provided some nice pictures (see gallery) - and what i can tell (never seen them up close yet) it that it doesn't suffer from ground clearance like a sub-frame mount. And it also looks like you got good room underneath to mount mower decks and lift Assembly's so thats two big pluses right there cant do that with my 2520 (yanmar built)

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crfowler. The Cub Cadet Yanmar EX3200 Backhoe subframe stays on the tractor so You can Take the Backhoe off in minutes and subframe stays. You can still use your 3pt hitch with out having anything in the way. SubFrame stays rigid mounted to the Tractor frame.
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I am wonder how that thumb is installed. Does it need to be welded to the backhoe frame?

Of the price quotes I've received, only one dealer wants to charge for installation of the thumb, and he is talking about welding. This guy didn't seem to know there was a Cub brand matched thumb for this backhoe, and wanted to sell me a more expensive 3rd party universal thumb that would have had to be welded.

I don't think he's dishonest - just wondering if he's not really familiar with that backhoe. I am inclined to give him first shot at the sale, as he's closest and has spent time showing me the tractor.

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Thanks. So, it looks like the Bro-Tek is specific to Kubota & is a bolt-on. The gearmore is universal and is a weld-on.

Does anyone know about the Cb75 Cub thumb for the Ex3200 backhoe?

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