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05-29-2008, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bigkid I do agree with everything i have heard so far, especially about how kubotas hold their value. I was told that new L3940's equipped like mine are selling for 32,500 in my area and that i should be able to sell mine for 27,500. It has less than 100 hours on it, 724 FEL and BH90 bh, rear work lights and rubber pads on outriggers. I had one dealer offer 25,000 as a trade in price, others offered a little less but they also were asking for less for the new L39 so in the end things were almost identical. I did however have one dealer tell me that they could only give me 18,000 for mine on trade. I thought that was laughable, but if i am wrong in thinking that someone please put me in my place. In case anyone is wondering that place was messicks equipment in lancaster pa. I think they post on here as well which is how i learned of them. Maybe i shouldn't put that information on here but oh well to late now. Well my tough decision is still as it was yesterday. Very tough and a bit confusing because of all the variables but i do expect to talk to the yanmar dealer tomorrow so hopefully he has some good pricing for me that makes my decision a little easier. Oh and one more thing, the yanmar dealer is deffinitely not a mom and pop place. In fact they also sell New Holland and Kioti equipment and have been in buisness for many many years. Well i will keep you guys posted and keep all the feedback coming, it's deffinitely a great help. Thanks again to everyone. | Messick's is generally known to be a good dealership with excellent prices on new equipment. But when a trade-in enters the picture... especially in this weird economy... anything is possible. Assuming you do not want the hassle and/or delay of selling outright, do your shopping and take your best net price... all other things being equal. Dougster™ | | | |
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05-29-2008, 08:22 PM
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I don't believe Messick is here yet but I don't believe you posted anything wrong so don't sweat it. My impression why the numbers would be so low and off the mark technically is maybe two fold - it could be a honest mistake, wrong model quote or less major attachments. Or the most probable in my opinion is to steer away trade-In's since they may get stuck with stuff that doesn't move, or the pricing and financing make it more attractive to go new. Giving you such a low number may thwart you from going that route with them, and just buy it normally without trade-in. Just my thought on the possibility. | Kubota L39 w/WR long RGB Grapple, Bradco Pallet forks, BH QA buckets, and more! JD 2520, 210Cx, 46BH, 60" Box Blade-Mid West, 52" Mid West aerator, 52" first choice Tiller, 5' Fontier blade, 42" pallet forks, Green MFG PHD, Mid West York Rake w/guage wheels, Cub 3204 with Blower & Simms Cab, Mowers (44",48",50"),Ford 2006 F550 turbo diesel 4x4 w/11' mason dump, 16' 10k Doolittle trailer, Southwestern enclosed trailer, Wright Stander RH 52", Better Outdoor Product Quick 32" mower! | |
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05-29-2008, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Ducati996 I don't believe Messick is here yet but I don't believe you posted anything wrong so don't sweat it. My impression why the numbers would be so low and off the mark technically is maybe two fold - it could be a honest mistake, wrong model quote or less major attachments. Or the most probable in my opinion is to steer away trade-In's since they may get stuck with stuff that doesn't move, or the pricing and financing make it more attractive to go new. Giving you such a low number may thwart you from going that route with them, and just buy it normally without trade-in. Just my thought on the possibility. | Even in this crazy economic climate, I'd sure want to give selling a 100-hour Kubota outright a decent shot. I've heard stories of used, private party Kubotas being sold before they could make it into the newspaper... just on a front yard posted sign alone. If the legend and stories are even half true, you should be totally good to go! And if not, you've lost nothing and gained some new prospective on the machine's true market value.
And if your particular area is unusually depressed, go national with eBay, MachineFinder and/or TractorHouse! Dougster™ | | | |
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05-29-2008, 10:25 PM
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Points: 0 | I have deffinitely thought about the whole selling vs trading in part of it and i am deffinitely going to try my hand at selling outright first. I live along a major highway in amish country so their are lots of farms around and i have been told because of the great farming business at this time many farmers are paying cash for equipment both new and old. I figure on a 100 hour kubota that has been garage kept and maintained by the book their has got to be someone that would like to save 5 thousand dollars. If i don't get any local attention i will indeed try e-bay or some other means of advertising. All i know is the day when i go to pick my my new tlb can't get here soon enough, but i guess i need to choose one first. Thanks again for the advice guys.I hope to get even more as the days go by. | | | |
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05-30-2008, 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by bigkid I have deffinitely thought about the whole selling vs trading in part of it and i am deffinitely going to try my hand at selling outright first. I live along a major highway in amish country so their are lots of farms around and i have been told because of the great farming business at this time many farmers are paying cash for equipment both new and old. I figure on a 100 hour kubota that has been garage kept and maintained by the book their has got to be someone that would like to save 5 thousand dollars. If i don't get any local attention i will indeed try e-bay or some other means of advertising. All i know is the day when i go to pick my my new tlb can't get here soon enough, but i guess i need to choose one first. Thanks again for the advice guys.I hope to get even more as the days go by. | Of the two...go with the Kubota...  ...you can paint in GREEN later...
Amish country!!  ...they buy HORSES and HORSE-DRAWN EQUIPMENT...and do stuff like this but in their case its all of the time!!...not just at clinics and demonstrations...  | Paul in VT
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05-30-2008, 02:15 AM
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Points: 0 | I looked at the CBL40. its a nice tractor. i have not seen one in person.
dont care for the funny looking loader arms. and low PTO HP.
but like Duc said. kubota dealers are everywhere. I never see yanmar
dealers. at least not around here. i would go with the Bota.
i personaly drove a L39 in Dirt , and its a sweet machine. No other TBL other than the M59 has all the options.
Chris...  | John Deere 2520 , R4's , 200CX loader with 61 inch bucket and JD Tooth Bar. And Markham 7 tooth. Tooth bar. 46 Backhoe with 16 inch bucket. with Custom made Street Flip pads off a 448 hoe. Foward work lights. Dual rear work lights. Heavy duty Alternator. I-Match , Ballast Box , Frontier BB2060 box blade , Frontier pallet Forks , JD 3 point reciever hitch. and soon A lot more..  and for grass cutting , John Deere GX 255 with 48 inch deck. | |
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05-30-2008, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris2520 I looked at the CBL40. its a nice tractor. i have not seen one in person.
dont care for the funny looking loader arms. and low PTO HP.
but like Duc said. kubota dealers are everywhere. I never see yanmar
dealers. at least not around here. i would go with the Bota.
i personaly drove a L39 in Dirt , and its a sweet machine. No other TBL other than the M59 has all the options.
Chris...  | The CBL-40 does have a funny looking loader. In fact, it looks funnier in person than it does in the pix. But it is also powerful like the bull. Make the L39 FEL look anemic. And the extra weight of the CBL-40 is not to be sneezed at either. It does make a difference.
Still, for equal money out-of-pocket, I'd take the L39. Actually paying more for the CBL-40 than the L39 simply does not compute for me, mainly due to its relatively rapid depreciation.
On the other hand, a leftover and/or slightly used and/or distressed sale CBL-40 could be a real find. I have seen some go for chump change. I just wasn't in the right place at the right time with the right cash to take advantage.
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05-30-2008, 09:55 PM
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Points: 0 | I actually did some research as to the FEL on the cbl40 because i wanted to know whether solid steel or boxed loader arms would be stronger. I talked to someone who has been working with steel for over 40 years and he told me that of course it comes down to thickness of the steel but if your talking half inch plate vs 1/8 inch to make a box that the plate is much stronger. I also like the location of the hydraulic cylinders on the cbl because if rocks would fall off the back of the bucket the cylinders won't be damaged. I do agree however that the L-39 is way ahead on resale value and i have decided that the only way the cbl40 could make that up is either in selling price if the dealer really wants to make the sell or if they happen to gain in popularity. Both machines are very nice and i can't really go wrong with either one which is why this is such a tough decision. The only other thing i was able to come up with was the tranny is so different in the 2 machines. GST in the L-39 puts lots of power to the ground but seems like it would slow productiondown a bit. The cbl-40 is like a hydro until it senses load and then switches to a second gear box similar to that of a manual tranny but you never have to clutch. I don't know which one is better but figured you guys could help me with that. Thanks again guys for all the helpful advice. | | | |
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Originally Posted by bigkid The only other thing i was able to come up with was the tranny is so different in the 2 machines. GST in the L-39 puts lots of power to the ground but seems like it would slow production down a bit. The cbl-40 is like a hydro until it senses load and then switches to a second gear box similar to that of a manual tranny but you never have to clutch. I don't know which one is better but figured you guys could help me with that. Thanks again guys for all the helpful advice. | To me, the tranny type is a personal preference issue. Personally, I couldn't care less as long as it works, is reliable and doesn't break down on me. Folks seem to like the GST on the L39 an awful lot. I happen to have a gear tranny and that is fine with me.
The CBL-40 sounds like a cross between HST and GST... and that's probably fine as well. 4,642 ma and pa rental shops cannot be wrong!
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05-31-2008, 12:05 AM
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Points: 0 | Well it seems like i am gonna have to make this decision based on dealer support and overall price. I have been trying to find something about one or the other that might make me lean more in one direction but it seems like everytime i find a little something i like i find a little something i disslike and it works that way for both machines. Well i guess the next few days will tell the tale as i plan on revisiting both machines again at the dealer and maybe just maybe i can make up my mind. If you guys have anything else that might help please feel free to share. Thangs again | | | |
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