RenPro

Hi All,

I've been testing several tractors and looking for a machine for my small business which includes various light construction jobs such as patios, walls, decks, drainage, walkways, etc.

I've run through the gambit of possible machines and was pretty much sold on the Kubota 2620 but really am not ready to upgrade my primary vehicle to a 2500 series pickup and 7000 GVRW trailer at this time.

I investigated two subcompact machines the Kubota BX24 and the Massey Ferguson 2610. After reviewing them both carefully and comparing them to larger machines the Massey seems to have several advantages over the Kubota.

1) more horsepower and larger cc block. 25 hp (1123 cc) vs 23 hp (898 cc)
2) better hydraulics - the Massey has full function of the hydraulics right off idle where you can't even raise the bucket on the Kubota until you rev up the engine speed.
3) Substantially beefer backhoe. The Massey's arm is noticeably larger and has larger pins, stabilizers not to mention a better digging depth 78 vs 73 inches.
4) More substantial frame (2670 lbs vs 2245 lbs.)

Am I missing something or is the Massey a stronger machine in this category?

Dougster

Machines in this size are obviously not my strong point, but I can tell you that I compared the old Massey 2310TLB to the old Kubota BX2350 a while back and I would have bought the BX2350 had I needed a machine in that size class. Build quality, dealer support and resale value would have been the biggest factors. Plus in my particular area, the Kubota was actually cheaper to buy brand new than the Massey. Go figure!

Dougster™

GreenWannabe

The Massey GC2410 is probably a more apples to apples comparison to the BX24. And the BX25 coming this fall is supposed to correct the hydraulics issue as well as a number of other issues which have been the subject of much discussion on all the tractor boards. From all the comments I've read, I don't think you can really go wrong with either tractor. In your considerations, don't overlook dealer responsiveness, reputation, and facilities - your relationship with the dealer may be as important in the long run as the machine.

Have fun shopping.

Fred

RenPro

Does anyone have any more experience with these machines to offer some insight?

Dougster

I'm sure more folks would love to help out... but I don't think anyone here owns a Massey 2610 yet. Looks to me like you would be first one to own and be able to give a report on how well it works!

Dougster™

gunmaker

I spent alot of time looking at a bx24, playing with a demonstrator and comparing to other brands. While I was satisfied with the quality of the Kubota, there were two things that I didn't like. The first, is the heel/toe rocker pedal for forward reverse, just personal preference but it drove me nuts. The second had nothing to do with the quality of the unit, just that the unit convinced me it was too small for my needs.
The Massey looks like another nice unit, but without experience, my only comment is that it's physical size limits it's abilities.
Remember, after you get your unit home, your always gonna think or wish that you'd gone a bit bigger...do it from the get go!

JD 2520 w/46bh, 200cx loader, meyers 6ft plow
jd 425 w/54"mmm& 54"plow

emerichsales

I may be a little bias

But

Kubota has been to be the leader in Sub-Compact and Compact sales for a reason!

(From all the comments I've read, I don't think you can really go wrong with either tractor. In your considerations, don't overlook dealer responsiveness, reputation, and facilities - your relationship with the dealer may be as important in the long run as the machine.)Greenwannabe Quote

I do believe that you would be happy with either machine.

Buy from the Dealer that you feel more comfortable with.

PaulChristenson

Actually it means that when you are starting your tractor you are starting your hydraulic pump at the same time...Try that at sub zero temps with a cold battery...

JD even had a feature on their old AG tractors to shut down the hydraulics to the pump so you could start the tractor in really cold weather...however, you then had to jump down and open the hydraulics...

Paul in VT

I used to own an ant farm but had to give it up. I couldn't find tractors small enough to fit it.
-- Steven Wright

Ducati996

Which is the one that you prefer? and are you covered for support in case you need it? I ask that because I dont know of many Massy dealers around.

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vansimplement

Looking at those two machines the GC2610 is going to have a few extra hp and dig a bit deeper (6.5 ft vs 6 ft, I think). On the flip-side the BX24 can lift a bit more with its loader.
On a convenience related note, from what I understand it takes more time to remove the backhoe from the BX24, where the MF has more of a drop-n-go system. So you might want to check into that and see what the details are.
Hopefully that helps you out a bit, just a matter of weighing the pros and cons against what you'll primarily be using it for.
Thanks,
Mark

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