JD & Yanmar Built Tractor Models - Machine Underground -Tractor & Commercial Equipment Discussion Forum

**mark777** · 12-27-2007, 09:40 PM

Quick Reference for John Deere & Yanmar Built Model Tractors:

MODEL # - YEARS - HP - CI - # CYL - TRANS - DRIVE - WEIGHT

650*: ’81-’89 - 16 HP - 52.1 ci - 2 - 8/2 - 2/4WD - 1530 (Serial # Location: Below PTO 1981: 1000 1982: 3539 1983: 6250 1984: 10543 1985: 15001 1986: 19001 1987: 22501 1988: 24298)
655: ‘86-’90 - 16 HP - 40.2 ci - 3 - hydro - 2WD-4WD - 1680
670: ’89-’97 - 16 PTO - 54 ci - 3 - 8/2 - 2/4WD - NA
750*: ’81-’89 - 20 HP - 78.2 ci - 3 - 8/2 - 2/4WD - 1700-1896 (Serial # Location: Below PTO 1981: 1000 1982: 3448 1983: 5613 1984: 8957 1985: 13001 1986: 18501 1987: 22601 1988: 26450)755: ’86-’98 - 20HP - 53.6 ci - 3 - hydro - 2/4WD - 1700
770*: ’89-’98 - 24 HP - 83.1 ci - 3 - 8/2 - 2/4WD - 2500 (Serial # Location: Below PTO 1989: 1001 1990: 4111 1991: 100001 1992: 115001 1993: 120001 1994: 130001 1995: 140001 1996: 150001 1997: 160001 1998: 170001)
790: ‘00-‘05 - 27HP - 81.2 ci - 3 - 8/2 - 2/4WD - 1930-2105
850: ’78-’89 - 22PTO -78 ci - 3 - 8/2 - 2/4WD - 2400 (Serial #Location: Below PTO 1978: 1000 1979: 3859 1980: 7389 1981: 11338 1982: 12481 1983: 14183 1984: 16006 1985: 18001 1986: 22002 1987: 25501 1988: 28337)
855: ‘86-’98 - 24HP - 60.7 ci - 3 - hydro - 2/4WD - 1890 (Serial # Location: Below PTO shaft 1986: M0360001 1987: M0420001 1988: M0475001 1989: M0615001 1990: M010001 1991: M0100001 1992: LV100700 1993: LV130000 1994: LV165001 1995: LVB170123 1996: LVE190001 1997: LVE200001 1998: LVE300001)
870*: ’89-’98 - 28HP - 87.3 ci - 3 - 9/3 - 2/4WD - 2515
950*: ’78-’89 - 27 PTO - 105 ci - 3 - 8/2 - 2/4WD - 2700 (Serial # Location: Below PTO 1978: 1024 1979: 5229 1980: 10453 1981: 14893 1982: 16204 1983: 18204 1984: 20007 1985: 23001 1986: 26001 1987: 28501 1988: 30082)
955*: ‘89-’98 - 33 HP - 87.3 ci - 3 - hydro - 4WD - 2000 (Serial # Location: Near PTO shaft 1990: 10001 1991: 100001 1992: 100700 1993: 130000 1994: 165001 1995: 175130 1996: 190001 1997: 200001 1998: 300001)
970*: ’89-’98 - 33 HP - 110.8 ci - 4 - 9/3 - 2/WD - 2020 (Serial # Location: Below PTO 1989: 1001 1990: 1338 1990: 2242 (Power steer) 1991: 100001 1992: 110001 1993: 120001 1994: 130001 1995: 140001 1996: 150001 1997: 160001 1998: 170001)
990*: ‘01--- - 40.4 HP - 121.7 ci - 4 - 9/3 - 2/4WD - 2594-3175
1050: ’80-’89 - 33 PTO Turbo- 105 ci - 3 - 8/2 - 2/4WD - 3600 (Serial # Location: below PTO 1980: 1000 1981: 5280 1982: 6572 1983: 9001 1984: 11006 1985: 14001 1986: 17001 1987: 19501 1988: 21479)
1070: ‘89-’98 - 39 HP - 116.3 ci - 4 - 9/3 - 2/-4WD - 3000 (Serial # Location: Below the PTO on the rear of the transmission case 1989: 001001 1990: 001338 1991: 100001 1992: 115001 1993: 120001 1994: 130001 1995: 140001 1996: 150001 1997: 160001 1998: 170001)
1250*: ‘82-’89 - 44 HP - 142.7 ci - 3 - 9/2 - 2/4WD - 4880 (Serial # Location: Below the PTO on rear of transfer case 1982: 1000 1983: 1256 1984: 3001 1985: 4001 1986: 5001 1987: 5501 1988: 5785)
1450*: ‘84-’88 - 55 HP - 190.3 ci - 4 - 9/2 - 2WD-4WD - 4450
1650*: ’84-’88 - 67 HP - 190 ci - 4 Turbo - 9/3 - 2WD-4WD - 4620 (Serial # Location: Below PTO on rear of tractor 1984: 1021 1985: 2401 1986: 3001 1987: 3501 1988: 3579)
2210: ‘03--- -23 HP - 61 ci - 3 - hydro - 4WD - 1400
2305: - NA-----NA---NA---NA-----NA------NA
2320: - NA-----NA---NA---NA-----NA------NA
2520: ‘06--- -20.5 PTO HP - 81.2 ci - 3 - hydro - 4WD - 1865
3120: ‘05 --- 29.5 HP - 91.5 ci - 3 - e-hydro - 4WD - 3000
3203: ‘06 --- 32 HP - 91.5 ci - 3 - (3TNV84) - hydro - 4WD - 2700
3320: ‘05 --- 32.5 HP - 101.1 ci - 3 - (3TNV88) e-hydro - 4WD - 2900- (3570 w/cab)
3520: ‘05 --- 37 HP - 91.5 ci - 3 Turbo (3TNV84T) - e-hydro - 4WD - 2900- (3570 w/cab)
3720: ’05 --- 44 HP - 91.5 CI - 3 Turbo - (3TNV84HT) - e-hydro - 4WD - 2900 (3570 w/cab)
4100: ‘98-’00 - 19HP - 61.4 ci - 3 - 8/4 or hydro - 4WD - 1565
4200: ‘88-’01 - 26 HP- 73.5 ci - 3 - 9/3 or hydro - 2/4WD - 2400 (Serial # 1998: 120000 1999: 220001 2000: 320001 2001: 420001
4300: ’98-’03 - 32 HP - 91.3 ci - 3 - hydro - 2/4WD - 3000 (Serial # 1998: 130000 1999: 230000 2000: 330000 2001: 340000)
4400: ‘98-’01 - 35 HP - 100.2 ci - 3 - hydro - 4WD - 2900 (Serial # 1998: 140000 1999: 240001 2000: 340001 2001: 440001)
4500: ‘98-’00 - 37 HP - 122 ci -4 - 9/3 - 2/4WD - NA
4600: ‘99-’03 - 36 PTO - 121 ci - 4 - 9/3 - 2/4WD - 3400
4010*: ‘03-’05 -18.5 HP - 47.84 ci - 3 - hydro - 4WD - 1420
4110*: ’03--- - 20 HP - 61 ci - 3 - hydro or 8/4 - 4WD - 1579
4115*: ‘00--- - 24 HP - 61 ci - 3 - hydro - 4WD - 1771
4210: ’03--- - 28 HP - 81.2 ci - 3 - hydro or 9/3 - 2/4WD - 2675
4310: ’03--- - 31.2 HP - 92 ci - 3 - hydro or 9/3 - 2/4WD - 2900
4410: ’03--- - 34.6 HP - 81.2 ci - 3 - hydro or 9/3 - 4WD - 2900
4510: ’NA --- NA------NA--------NA---------NA------NA
4610: ‘03-’04 - 35HP - 121 ci - 4 - hydro or 9/3 - 4WD - 3425
4710: ’03-’04 - 48 HP - 121 ci - 4 - e-hydro - 4WD - 3500

* Models built and exported from Japan

**mark777** · 12-27-2007, 09:49 PM

I made the list above as a quick reference for members owning a John Deere either powered by or built by Yanmar.

I spent quite some time verifying the data and I am missing some pertinent model information as indicated by the ‘NA’s. If anyone has these models and would like to share or upgrade the list please let us know.
Thanks,

Mark

Kevin_A · 12-30-2007, 02:38 PM

Mark you gave this listing and it is very enlightening. I've helped several Yanmar owners over the years repair their tractors just by referencing my jd650 service manual. I do not remember the specific model numbers, but they resembled my 650 so closely that it was a bit unsettling. The reason why I joined this forum is because for whatever reason John Deere and Yanmar are no longer working together to support these machines parts wise. I recently had a problem where I have lost my reverse gears both in the Hi/Lo ranges, but I still have the eight forward and pto functioning. My JD dealer has informed me that he can no longer provide parts for the transmission because the unit was procured from Yanmar by Deere. What I am looking for is any information in the form of a corresponding Yanmar model number or after / gray market parts supply. My tractor is a 1987 year of manufacture although my dealer's parts guy has informed me that all of the gears for the transmissions fit from 1980 through 1989.

**Ducati996** · 12-30-2007, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin_A

Mark you gave this listing and it is very enlightening. I've helped several Yanmar owners over the years repair their tractors just by referencing my jd650 service manual. I do not remember the specific model numbers, but they resembled my 650 so closely that it was a bit unsettling. The reason why I joined this forum is because for whatever reason John Deere and Yanmar are no longer working together to support these machines parts wise. I recently had a problem where I have lost my reverse gears both in the Hi/Lo ranges, but I still have the eight forward and pto functioning. My JD dealer has informed me that he can no longer provide parts for the transmission because the unit was procured from Yanmar by Deere. What I am looking for is any information in the form of a corresponding Yanmar model number or after / gray market parts supply. My tractor is a 1987 year of manufacture although my dealer's parts guy has informed me that all of the gears for the transmissions fit from 1980 through 1989.

Kevin_A,

Thank you for joining us, wanted to be the first to say welcome to the M.U !

Im actually surprised to here that a relatively new machine is hard to find parts for especially Deere. I will need to find this out for myself from some of my dealers - if indeed this is true (not saying its not, maybe it is) but the Deere/Yanmar is still going forward (today) and any changes will not be felt this soon. Yanmar supplies a lot of new machines & engines for Deere, so so far I havent heard about the support being phased out.

If you have any part details that would help. maybe its your dealer who dosent want to place a special order?

Hope to help you get to the crux of the issue, along with mark777 help, and some of the dealer connections some of the other members have to verify....

**PaulChristenson** · 12-30-2007, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin_A

Mark you gave this listing and it is very enlightening. I've helped several Yanmar owners over the years repair their tractors just by referencing my jd650 service manual. I do not remember the specific model numbers, but they resembled my 650 so closely that it was a bit unsettling. The reason why I joined this forum is because for whatever reason John Deere and Yanmar are no longer working together to support these machines parts wise. I recently had a problem where I have lost my reverse gears both in the Hi/Lo ranges, but I still have the eight forward and pto functioning. My JD dealer has informed me that he can no longer provide parts for the transmission because the unit was procured from Yanmar by Deere. What I am looking for is any information in the form of a corresponding Yanmar model number or after / gray market parts supply. My tractor is a 1987 year of manufacture although my dealer's parts guy has informed me that all of the gears for the transmissions fit from 1980 through 1989.

What kind of JD dealership is this?
AG...or one of the Small tractor consumer type...

How many work bays are there in the shop?

How many mechanics do they have?
and how qualified are they?
Because transmission work requires skilled mechanics...

How large of an estimate did they give you?
or
Did they even give you an estimate?
Splitting the tractor is expensive...

Check with another JD dealership...preferably one with an AG component...

Mickey · 12-30-2007, 03:59 PM

Another welcome Kevin. Why not make a post to the intro forum so we can learn more about you.

I think you'll find discussion like this, long term support for Yanmar built JD's and similar situations of other brands of contract built tractors, and there are mixed opinions, isn't there always, on all the tractor sites.

Personally I've never been of the belief the long term support of contract built model is a sure thing. I'm sure there are some Fed regs that require a min number of yrs of support but don't think we'll see decades of support like we do with a number of older American designed and made models. Time will tell. A lot of harm will come if the tractor Co's don't provide long term support and part of the harm will be to the brand name of the Co that doesn't provide the support customers expect from products like tractors that are used for 2-4 decades.

**mark777** · 12-30-2007, 06:00 PM

Hey Kevin, Welcome to Machine Underground.

The information you seek, and I’m assuming it’s what model Yanmar transmission components cross to your model JD 650, is unknown to me. Frankly it’s the kind of information to KILL for. It has to be the closest guarded secret with the higher ups at JD and Yanmar. Several gray market Yanmar dealers never actually possessed a parts interchange from one brand to the other but in the good old days did support parts and info between dealer and supplier. Truly sorry I’m not much help but you might try Len Sheaffer (Len Sheaffer - Sheaffer town and country tractor www.sheaftractor.net) who has amassed a treasure of information and might help you out with what works (and what won’t). And he may even (probably) have the parts once you identify what’s broken.

I have heard that the JD650 is becoming difficult to find ‘hard’ parts for, but I hope it’s like Ducati and Paul have indicated and perhaps you need a good parts guy that will actually get off his duff and do a little leg work. What has worked for me…and a relatively inexpensive bribe, is a tray of coffee and box of doughnuts (no kidding) first thing when a dealership service department opens up. Just start asking questions and usually someone fesses up and knows what's wrong.

Have you pulled the hydraulics and rock-shaft and checked to see if something is obviously broken? Maybe a broken pinion shaft, thrust washer and bearing…or something that can be matched up over the counter at a JD place? I’m pretty sure you won’t have to split the tractor but probably pull the axles, gears and shafts from the transmission should you feel mechanically confident to do so.

Keep us informed will ya?

Mark

**mark777** · 12-30-2007, 06:03 PM

Kevin...I forgot to ask, does your differential lock still operate correctly?

Kevin_A · 01-07-2008, 01:41 PM

All, thanks for the input. I had to travel since the last post and the laptop from work is ancient by todays standards so uplink to web was spotty at best. To answer some or all of the questions Yanmar and Deere still work in joint venture, but, apparently Yanmar has seen fit to discontinue support on some of the Deere models for what reason no one can explain. My dealer is one of the largest in Massachusetts and services virtually all of the medium to large farms. He (Jeff Padula) has been very supportive, but points to the JD online site to backup his position. When I setup an account and logged in, sure enough under 650/750 Compact Utility Tractors in the power train section a good number of parts are listed as NLA (no longer available). Yes they did give me an estimate ........ are you sitting down $5000.00 labor, $1200 in parts assuming it is just the two reverse gears 1-R sliding and reverse gear. I do agree that a more aggresive parts guy will help I will follow up your leads. The good news is that I did find a used transmission from a parts dealer (Bakerabilenemachine.com) and it should arrive this week

. This will help to get me back up and running. Mark as for the differential lock it works in forward but I can't tell you about reverse. I'll know more as I get deeper into the machine!!! As I do, I will post with pictures for help as well as to supply insite for anyone else that has to handle this task in the future. Well this all of the time I have for now, I will post in a couple days when the tranny arrives. Thanks Mark, Paul Ducati and Mickey.

**PaulChristenson** · 01-09-2008, 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin_A

All, thanks for the input. I had to travel since the last post and the laptop from work is ancient by todays standards so uplink to web was spotty at best. To answer some or all of the questions Yanmar and Deere still work in joint venture, but, apparently Yanmar has seen fit to discontinue support on some of the Deere models for what reason no one can explain. My dealer is one of the largest in Massachusetts and services virtually all of the medium to large farms. He (Jeff Padula) has been very supportive, but points to the JD online site to backup his position. When I setup an account and logged in, sure enough under 650/750 Compact Utility Tractors in the power train section a good number of parts are listed as NLA (no longer available). Yes they did give me an estimate ........ are you sitting down $5000.00 labor, $1200 in parts assuming it is just the two reverse gears 1-R sliding and reverse gear. I do agree that a more aggresive parts guy will help I will follow up your leads. The good news is that I did find a used transmission from a parts dealer (Bakerabilenemachine.com) and it should arrive this week

. This will help to get me back up and running. Mark as for the differential lock it works in forward but I can't tell you about reverse. I'll know more as I get deeper into the machine!!! As I do, I will post with pictures for help as well as to supply insite for anyone else that has to handle this task in the future. Well this all of the time I have for now, I will post in a couple days when the tranny arrives. Thanks Mark, Paul Ducati and Mickey.

If you're looking for parts for a 650,750,850 or 950 series tractor and find them unavailable at the dealer try e-mailing LMTC@tds.net . He has put together a 17 page pdf catalog of parts he can supply aftermarket.