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Perkins 3 cylinder question?? Was there an engine built in the same era as the 3A152/3D152 that was as efficient and as good starting as this little legend??
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Will
If there was I do not know of it. Great engine a lot better than the Ford of that era.
scrapironford
Deutz tractors of that era also got high fuel economy,and it all depends how the Perkins was fueled.
My neighbor had a MF245 and I was running my Long 445 we were both pulling 990M/C in the same field one behind the other and the long would use less fuel,my European tractors would all do well on fuel consumption.
The worst tractor I owned for fuel economy was a JD 950 all I used it for was to pull a Kuhn rake.
Don't know about the models mentioned but sure loved the MF165D I had. The 4-cyl perkins was a dream. Sipped fuel and in the winter with temps in the mid-30's, engine would be running within about 2 sec. Pretty decent for diesel with no glow-plugs.
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The 3-cylinder Ford of the same era, as well as the 3-cylinder Deeres built from mid 60's to mid 80's were good engines too. The Deere was somewhat proned to wet sleeve pitting, so it loses points. The Ford 3-cylinders used in the 2000/2600/3000/3600's as well as the somewhat larger 3-banger in the 4000/4600 weren't anything to take for granted. They USUALLY needed a block heater to be reliable cold starters, but no serious shortcomings I'm aware of.
What put the Perkins AD3-152 "over the top" was the sheer numbers produced. THey were used in a variety of brands besides MF's. That kept production cost low, and made parts availability high. They do in fact "cold start" easy. Maybe TOO easy. Even though they'll start in extreme cold with no heater/glow plug/pre-heater/ect, it's still not good on them to continuously start one in harsh winter conditions.
I owned a gas 3000 Ford for quite a while, later trading on a deisel 3000. My MF150 (w/Perkins AD3-152) would plow all day long on 10% to 15% less fuel than a 3000 diesel. By the nature of the 150's longer, heavier chassis, it was more fuel efficient (while plowing) than a like equipped MF135.
I've tried to get a count on how many AD3-152's Perkins produced in the 50+ year run. I'm sure it's in the millions. The best analogy I've ever heard regarding the 152 was, "It's the small block Chevy of tractor engines". (long successful run, huge numbers produced, fantastic reputation)
Is the Simpson engine (made in India) a clone of the Perkins 152?
1st, Welcome to MU Randyr..Originally Posted by Randyr
Not sure if it was a clone, but it appears Simpson first licensed Perkins engines in 1955, mighta' even been those great Perkins 3 cylinder engines were made in India by Simpson?.
Simpson - Tractor & Construction Plant Wiki - The classic vehicle and machinery wiki
BTW my NH L555 has a Perkins 4 cyl that is a great running, easy starting little power house... at least for me it is.Simpson & Co. Ltd. is a Chennai, India based manufacturer of agricultural engines, and is a unit of The Amalgamations Group. Simpson supplies its Perkins-licensed/based engines to its sister company, TAFE, manufacturer of TAFE and Massey Ferguson tractors.
Simpson & Co. began in 1840, and moved into engine production in 1955 when it licensed Perkins engines. Simpsons has two manufacturing facilities - at Anna Salai and Sembiam, Chennai
.... Tim
