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    Red face Automakers to get $17.4B

    Automakers to get $17.4B

    By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer Deb Riechmann, Associated Press Writer – 1 min ago


    WASHINGTON – Citing danger to the national economy, the Bush administration came to the rescue of the U.S. auto industry Friday, offering $17.4 billion in emergency loans in exchange for concessions from the deeply troubled carmakers and their workers.
    At the same time, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said Congress should authorize the use of the second $350 billion from the financial rescue fund that it approved in October to rescue huge financial institutions. Tapping the fund for the auto industry basically exhausts the first half of the $700 billion total, he said.
    President Bush said, "Allowing the auto companies to collapse is not a responsible course of action." Bankruptcy, he said, would deal "an unacceptably painful blow to hardworking Americans" across the economy.
    One official said $13.4 billion of the money would be available this month and next, $9.4 billion for General Motors Corp. and $4 billion for Chrysler LLC. Both companies have said they soon might be unable to pay their bills without federal help. Ford Motor Co. has said it does not need immediate help.
    Bush said the rescue package demanded concessions similar to those outlined in a bailout plan that was approved by the House but rejected by the Senate a week ago. It would give the automakers three months to come up with restructuring plans to become viable companies.
    If they fail to produce a plan by March 31, the automakers will be required to repay the loans, which they would find very difficult.
    "The time to make hard decisions to become viable is now, or the only option will be bankruptcy," Bush said. "The automakers and unions must understand what is at stake and make hard decisions necessary to reform."
    He said the companies' workers should agree to wage and work rules that are competitive with foreign automakers by the end of next year.
    And he called for elimination of a "jobs bank" program — negotiated by the United Auto Workers and the companies — under which laid-off workers receive unemployment benefits and supplemental pay from their companies for 48 weeks. If they remain laid off beyond that, they move to a jobs bank in which the company provides about 95% of their pay and benefits. Until the most recent contract, people could remain in the jobs bank for years. Early this month, the UAW agreed to suspend the program.
    Bush's plan is designed to keep the auto industry running in the short term, passing the longer-range problem on to the incoming administration of President-elect Barack Obama.
    Paulson said that with the help for the carmakers, the government will have allocated the first half of the largest government bailout program in history.
    He said he was confident that the Treasury Department, Federal Reserve and Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. have the resources to address a significant market crisis if one should occur before Congress approves the use of the second half of the rescue fund.
    Paulson said he would discuss the process with congressional leaders and Obama's transition team "in the near future."
    The White House package is the lifeline desperately sought by U.S. automakers, who warned they were running out of money as the economy fell deeper into recession, car loans became scarce and consumers stopped shopping for cars.
    The carmakers have announced extended holiday shutdowns. Chrysler is closing all 30 of its North American manufacturing plants for four weeks because of slumping sales; Ford will shut 10 North American assembly plants for an extra week in January, and General Motors will temporarily close 20 factories — many for the entire month of January — to cut vehicle production.
    Bush said the auto manufactures have faced serious challenges for many years: burdensome costs, a shrinking share of the market and plunging profits. "In recent months, the global financial crisis has made these challenges even more severe," he said.
    The president said that on the one hand, the government has a responsibility not to undermine the private enterprise system, yet on the other hand, it must safeguard the broader health and stability of the U.S. economy.

    "If we were to allow the free market to take its course now, it would almost certainly lead to disorderly bankruptcy and liquidation for the automakers," he said.
    "Under ordinary economic circumstances, I would say this is the price that failed companies must pay," the president said. "And I would not favor intervening to prevent the automakers from going out of business. But these are not ordinary circumstances.
    "In the midst of a financial crisis and a recession, allowing the U.S. auto industry to collapse is not a responsible course of action."
    Chrysler CEO Bob Nardelli thanked the administration for its help.
    In a statement Friday morning, Nardelli said the initial injection of capital will help the company get through its cash crisis and help eventually return to profitability. He said Chrysler was committed to meeting the conditions set by Bush in exchange for the money.
    Ford President and CEO Alan Mulally said his company would not seek the short-term financial assistance but predicted the aid would stabilize the industry.
    "The U.S. auto industry is highly interdependent, and a failure of one of our competitors would have a ripple effect that could jeopardize millions of jobs and further damage the already weakened U.S. economy," Mulally said.
    General Motors said the short-term loans would help preserve jobs and "lead to a leaner, stronger General Motors." "We know we have much work in front of us to accomplish our plan. It is our intention to continue to be transparent as we execute our plan, and we will provide regular updates on our progress," the automaker said.


    Lets see where this gets us - by March I realy dont see improvement
    and the layoffs will happen anyway

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    It had to be done. The US automakers have their problems but the way the talking heads and business anchors have been talking you'd think that none of the big 3 produce anything that Americans want. It's a great attempt to divert attention from the true root of our economic problems, overinflated housing prices artificially supported by fraudulent loan products pushed by morally-impaired financial institutions to buyers who couldn't afford the loan.

    Regarding Ford, GM, and Chrysler, the last time I checked there aren't many foreign trucks pulling around heavy equipment.

    The problems of the automotive industry are definitely being exaggerated by the economy. If the current economy continues to shed jobs and see consumers cut back further on spending none of the automobile makers, domestic or foreign, will be making many automobiles or profit!

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    I dont get it. The union is the source of the problems of the big 3. We can safely conclude that the government bailouts are not the solution. In an act of arrogance, the union forgot who owns the manufacturing facilities and the machinery therin. If the unions get to overblown here and dont make some radical concessions the manufacturers will simply lock the doors to the manufacturing plants. I would love to see how powerful the UAW becomes after a year of no union members working or paying dues. Do you think the fed will bail out a faltering union? YOU BET YOUR BOOTS THEY WILL! Only the unions wont get pulled through the fire like the auto execs did.

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    I really don't know what the right decision is. First the big lending banks, should we let them fill their pockets with free cash after promising to be good this time? or allow them to go belly up and possibly hurt thousands of workers (when little companies are unable to get quick loans and are forced to lay off)..perhaps push the US into a decade long depression? Now it's the detroit big three..~sigh~...

    I do know bailing out large companies leaves a bad taste....can only hope the sour taste really is good medicine.


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    Congrats to the UAW; you got your bailout. I wonder, if in March, two of the three big three file Chapter 11 anyway . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ducati996 View Post
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    Ford President and CEO Alan Mulally said his company would not seek the short-term financial assistance but predicted the aid would stabilize the industry. ...
    I think this was a slick move by Ford in that it may give the impression they are in better shape then what they really are to Joe consumer. I think they are banking that people as a result will be less tentative buying a new car from them compared to GM or Chrysler.
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    I don't blame the american worker for the fact that these companies are failing. The Big 3 corporate management has treated any vehicle weighing under 8,000 lbs as a red headed step child.

    The workers dont design their junk! The bottom line is that in many classes of consumer vehicles, the American companies have only made junk that only a person who only buys American would buy. I know, because i bought a chevy cavalier off the lot a long time ago. Big mistake!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark / Ohio View Post
    I think this was a slick move by Ford in that it may give the impression they are in better shape then what they really are to Joe consumer. I think they are banking that people as a result will be less tentative buying a new car from them compared to GM or Chrysler.
    Ford is in better shape than Chrysler or GM; they, smartly or luckily, refinanced their debt and opened lines of credit when credit was cheap and available.
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    At the end of the day, who's going to buy their cars?
    So we bail out the banks, but people still can't get credit to buy a car. Then automakers go down the crapper, and now we bail them out too.

    Does this make sense to anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanster View Post
    I don't blame the american worker for the fact that these companies are failing. The Big 3 corporate management has treated any vehicle weighing under 8,000 lbs as a red headed step child.

    The workers dont design their junk! The bottom line is that in many classes of consumer vehicles, the American companies have only made junk that only a person who only buys American would buy. I know, because i bought a chevy cavalier off the lot a long time ago. Big mistake!
    Im very fond of Ford (SUV & Trucks) and Chrylser (jeep especially) and I also really like GMC trucks and SUVs. I never thought of them as junk and always thought the quality is there. I have a Navigator and a F550 and I really like these guys - with no problems at all with them.

    The problem are most definitley in other areas - and of course the perfect storm over the last few years put the nail in the coffin.

    They have benfits issues, labor issues and a very competitive market along with energy crisis ( temporary relief certainly helps).

    I personally would have liked to see them in a controlled forced CH11 which was mentioned and seriously considered by the white house. But given the fragile state of the entire economy and the relative little amount they were asking, its worth throwing the bone to prove the point later that it really didnt help much (hope to be wrong) - march will be here soon enough....
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