Comparing prison sentences Check out the two criminal cases in the picture...
You know the first story. Here are the details of the latter one:Roy Brown, 54, robbed the Capital One bank in Shreveport, Louisiana in December 2007. He approached the teller with one of his hands under his jacket and told her that it was a robbery.
The teller handed Brown three stacks of bill but he only took a single $100 bill and returned the remaining money back to her. He said that he was homeless and hungry and left the bank.
The next day he surrendered to the police voluntarily and told them that his mother didn’t raise him that way.
Brown told the police he needed the money to stay at the detox center and had no other place to stay and was hungry.
In Caddo District Court, he pleaded guilty. The judge sentenced him to 15 years in prison for first degree robbery..
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Well the homeless guy now has a home and food for the next 15 years.
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As usual, there is a lot more to these kinds of sob stories. Mr Brown had a lengthy criminal history with 8 prior convictions since 1988. Like it or not, this is the kind of sentence you get when a multiple-conviction criminal finally turns to "armed" bank robbery.Originally Posted by PaulChristenson
Dougster™
No it's not right for Mr.Brown to get 15-years over $100 dollars.. and then you have an AIG executive that only gets 4-years for a $500M fraud... Welcome to the new USA... But Mr.Brown did rob a bank and that's a crime.
Mr.Brown "probably could have" told the "detox center" that he didn't have any money, and they "might have" let him stay any way.
Mr. Brown had other options beside bank robbery. And he was not "homeless" in the usual sense of the word. Do yourself a favor and Google Mr. Roy Brown if you want the whole story. Dig deep 'cause the popular, selective use of this case to illustrate prejudice will fill the first several pages of results.
Sorry if this case ticks me off folks. Please understand that my mother was a bank teller for over 20 years and we worried about her every single day she went to work. Bank robberies were quite common in the city where I grew up and they didn't all end pretty.
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I find myself on Doug's side in this instance but for different reasons. Principally, were these "crimes" committed in the same jurisdiction? I think not. This nation was set up as a federation of independently sovereign states and as such each state is free to enact their own laws that may vary greatly between one state and another.
If these crimes took place in the same jurisdiction, then I have a problem if all the other factors were similar.
Next case!
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IMHOthere are 3 "standards" of criminal justice in America (which is bought
)-
the rich and "famous", the middle class
, and the poor
(often of minority status). If you do not have the money to buy a good lawyer
you get "3 hots and a cot" and
Yes, the criminal justice system in America is not fair...BUT, even fake violent crime is still a form of violent crime, a threat of deadly force to get money is worth a stiff sentence. If you end up in jail because you're lazy, then you should have to spend your time working.
Having said the above...I also believe the lying scum that bilks millions or billions should be treated with a similarly heavy hand to send a message to any other smooth operator(s) that feel it's okay to lie and cheat on a big scale because they can convince good people to trust them. If you end up in jail because you're a lying scum that stole hard earned savings, you should have to meet with each and every person you ruined and tell them why it was okay to do it.
.... Tim
Mr.Brown also had a bad drug habit that he had to pay for.. So that's what the $100 was really used for... In my post I was saying it wasn't fair for an AIG executive to only get 4-years for a $500M fraud.. I have zero tolerance for any kind of thief and it's not best for me to post what I think they should do to them!Mr. Brown had other options beside bank robbery. And he was not "homeless" in the usual sense of the word. Do yourself a favor and Google Mr. Roy Brown if you want the whole story. Dig deep 'cause the popular, selective use of this case to illustrate prejudice will fill the first several pages of results.
Sorry if this case ticks me off folks. Please understand that my mother was a bank teller for over 20 years and we worried about her every single day she went to work. Bank robberies were quite common in the city where I grew up and they didn't all end pretty.
Dougster™
I'm on Doug's side too!.. I'm certainly 'not' on a thief's side.
But Mr.Brown did rob a bank and that's a crime.
I am not familiar with the AIG executive's case... but I have no problem at all putting away convicted white collar thieves for a very long time. Politicians too. In my state, they should all be in jail.Mr.Brown also had a bad drug habit that he had to pay for.. So that's what the $100 was really used for... In my post I was saying it wasn't fair for an AIG executive to only get 4-years for a $500M fraud.. I have zero tolerance for any kind of thief and it's not best for me to post what I think they should do to them!
I'm on Doug's side too!.. I'm certainly 'not' on a thief's side.Throw away the key!
All I was saying is that armed bank robbery is a 'real' crime too. I don't really care about the person's color, creed, national origin, drinking habits, personal motivations or sexual preference. I don't care if he/she later regrets having robbed the bank. I simply want bank robbers caught and put in jail for a very long time. I'm amazed that it is even an issue for debate... but I guess it is.
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