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    Noted in the Sat paper that Obama made a unscheduled stop in town on Fri. It may have been unscheduled but I can guaran-damn-tee ya it wasn't unplanned. According to Obama, he was getting hungry and heard you could get good food in Woodburn. Numerous places in town close to the freeway to get something to eat but just by chance they make their way to the old downtown section which is predominately Hispanic. Picture in the paper had him outside a Hispanic restaurant and a number of locals.

    It's a well know fact the Dems cater to the Hispanic vote. The head of the DNC was in town 4 yrs ago on a voter registration drive and the article in the paper featured a mid-30's Hispanic lady and said she lived in the states for half of her life, couldn't speak a word of English but at least she is now a registered Dem.

    As with much in politics, winning is more important than following the laws.

    Just an old voter wishing substance was more important to voters than flash & wishing truth and politics could be associated with one another.
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    As with much in politics, winning is more important than following the laws.
    With all due respect Mickey - what laws are you referring to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanster View Post
    With all due respect Mickey - what laws are you referring to?
    To pass the citizenship test of the U.S. you supposed to be able to use the English Language...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulChristenson View Post
    To pass the citizenship test of the U.S. you supposed to be able to use the English Language...
    A person in a news story about voter registration spoke spanish, therefore that person is an illegal alien trying to vote? Furthermore, perpetuating this crime, the offender decided to sit down with a reporter to help document the offense? Yea - right.

    I think it's pretty dangerous to assume that anyone who chooses to speak a foreign language is an illegal alien. Being able to speak & understand a language is very different from being comfortable conversing in that language.

    I spent 6 months in a foreign country and took language classes every morning for much of that time. Lets just say that I am not fluent in that language. I have great empathy for any adult who has to learn a second language!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanster View Post
    With all due respect Mickey - what laws are you referring to?
    Any and all laws and especially the constitution, both state and the USA. I'm from the strict constructionist school. A law means what it actually says and was the intent of the lawmakers at the time the law was passed. Want it to mean something else or applied in a way not envisioned at the time of passage, amend the law or pass a new one.

    Society can't function very well when how a law is interpreted and/or enforced changes with who is in power.

    Just reading this morning that Mo. was giving thought on presenting a constitutional amendment on having to prove one was a citizen of the country when registering. Such things as rent receipts or a utility bill would no longer be adequate. A number of groups are screaming and the noise is coming from the usual bunch. Another half doz states are giving this idea some consideration. What makes Mo different, they want to put this up for a vote before the Nov election and if it passes it would be in effect come the general election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey View Post
    Any and all laws and especially the constitution, both state and the USA. I'm from the strict constructionist school. A law means what it actually says and was the intent of the lawmakers at the time the law was passed. Want it to mean something else or applied in a way not envisioned at the time of passage, amend the law or pass a new one.

    Society can't function very well when how a law is interpreted and/or enforced changes with who is in power.

    Just reading this morning that Mo. was giving thought on presenting a constitutional amendment on having to prove one was a citizen of the country when registering. Such things as rent receipts or a utility bill would no longer be adequate. A number of groups are screaming and the noise is coming from the usual bunch. Another half doz states are giving this idea some consideration. What makes Mo different, they want to put this up for a vote before the Nov election and if it passes it would be in effect come the general election.
    I'm afraid we are losing the battle Mickey. Laws don't mean anything anymore. All that I want out of the next president is an end to the invasion of this country by illegals. The one thing that I am absolutely guaranteed not to get out of our next president (whomever it may be) is an end to the invasion of illegals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey View Post
    Any and all laws and especially the constitution, both state and the USA. I'm from the strict constructionist school. A law means what it actually says and was the intent of the lawmakers at the time the law was passed. Want it to mean something else or applied in a way not envisioned at the time of passage, amend the law or pass a new one.

    Society can't function very well when how a law is interpreted and/or enforced changes with who is in power.

    Just reading this morning that Mo. was giving thought on presenting a constitutional amendment on having to prove one was a citizen of the country when registering. Such things as rent receipts or a utility bill would no longer be adequate. A number of groups are screaming and the noise is coming from the usual bunch. Another half doz states are giving this idea some consideration. What makes Mo different, they want to put this up for a vote before the Nov election and if it passes it would be in effect come the general election.
    I agree with you Mickey. My question was about what law was was being broken in your original post. I didn't see anything you described as illegal.
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    It was a somewhat generic comment but if the person I sighted in the original post was in fact not a citizen, then laws were broke.

    Politicians of all stripes thrive on making promises in order to get elected and continue to be reelected. Looking at the Fed level, most of the time when they promise some tangible thing, it a good bet it is for something you won't find within the juristiction of the Fed Gov as defined in the constitution. I'm specifically thinking about the 10th amendment and article 1 section 8. The 10th amendment say the Fed's only have the powers delegated to it in the constitution and article 1 section 8 defines the powers of Congress.

    If these items were to be actually enforced, my bet is at least half the things the Fed Gov is involved with would be gone.
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