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05-12-2008, 10:33 PM
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That is a bad feature of bolt on teeth. You loose that extra steel taken up by the bolt holes. It does tend to weaken the cutting edge some. I can see how they could wear prematurely. Just a thought, you have no idea how much abuse those buckets took before the teeth broke. I have seen operator that could work all year and not have any problems with equipment and I have also seen them not be able to go 2 hrs with breaking something, while only doing half the work. It's a tough call as to which way to go. If you could get 2 of those buckets for the price of a new one, you would have a spare to fall back on. You should also check and see if Cat has an update for those buckets or the teeth. Once in awhile they do realize that they screwed up. | | | |
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Originally Posted by Theweldor  That is a bad feature of bolt on teeth. You loose that extra steel taken up by the bolt holes. It does tend to weaken the cutting edge some. I can see how they could wear prematurely. Just a thought, you have no idea how much abuse those buckets took before the teeth broke. I have seen operator that could work all year and not have any problems with equipment and I have also seen them not be able to go 2 hrs with breaking something, while only doing half the work. It's a tough call as to which way to go. If you could get 2 of those buckets for the price of a new one, you would have a spare to fall back on. You should also check and see if Cat has an update for those buckets or the teeth. Once in awhile they do realize that they screwed up. | Oh, they know they screwed up...  ... and they have already addressed it on the new (2008) machines, but they still want to clear out current stock! 
You are hitting the nail right on the head of my core question: Will these CAT buckets give reasonable service on my Yanmar VIO35-3??? Because if they will, I have a bucket that fits the budget, schedule, logistics and my excavator perfectly... with the added advantage of easy, field-changeable teeth. If they won't give reasonable service, I have a potential costly nightmare on my hands.
No way I can get a "Two-Fer" out of CAT... but that is not really necessary. The price is already quite competitive when one figures in the shipping costs of just about any other bucket. Other than the tooth issue, the buckets are extremely nice.
I have already asked them about the possibility of getting a new 303 welded/pinned tooth bucket shipped in. My inquiry was not exactly greated with much enthusism. Seems they will be more than happy to do it... after they clear out their current stock of 303 bolt-on buckets. 
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05-15-2008, 11:21 PM
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Doug, I may have another lead for you...
I was on a job today and they had a Takeuchi mini-ex that had a TAG bucket on it...is there any Takeuchi dealers close? |
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05-16-2008, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Kennyd Doug, I may have another lead for you...
I was on a job today and they had a Takeuchi mini-ex that had a TAG bucket on it...is there any Takeuchi dealers close? | Yep, Tak's do use TAG buckets... albeit a slightly different design... but the New England dealer, Chadwick-BaRoss, Inc., had nothing I could use when I visited there on April 22nd.
Like everyone else, he offered to special order one for super-megabucks and 3+ weeks delivery... but at that time I was still counting on the Yanmar dealer in Quincy, MA to get in a whole load of Tag/Yanmar buckets by month's end as he had indicated he would. As we know now, he either outright lied to me or he sold that entire load of TAG buckets to someone else. Duh. 
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05-16-2008, 06:04 PM
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So when are you getting a finishing bucket?...if that is what they call them...the larger one's with NO TEETH...just saw one in operation cleaning up a dig site...  |
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05-16-2008, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulChristenson So when are you getting a finishing bucket?...if that is what they call them...the larger one's with NO TEETH...just saw one in operation cleaning up a dig site... | That's been a key question almost since Day One with the ULDM.  The plain fact is that right now I've got more work coming in appropriate for a cleaning/finishing/ditching bucket than for toothed digging bucket. While the ULDM clearly needs and deserves a first-class digging bucket at some point, I have wrestled hard with the idea of putting off the digging bucket (i.e., by doing "temporary repairs" to the old digger) and buying the 30" or 36" ditching bucket first. I have also considered getting a 30" digger and trying to get by for now with that *compromise* bucket (mainly because I know where one is still available fairly cheap!). I decided that last idea was pretty much for the birds. 
Certainly can't get both buckets right now. I am so close to broke that it ain't funny anymore. All things considered, including alternative options, the ditching bucket will likely be the one that will have to wait.
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Originally Posted by Dougster That's been a key question almost since Day One with the ULDM. The plain fact is that right now I've got more work coming in appropriate for a cleaning/finishing/ditching bucket than for toothed digging bucket. While the ULDM clearly needs and deserves a first-class digging bucket at some point, I have wrestled hard with the idea of putting off the digging bucket (i.e., by doing "temporary repairs" to the old digger) and buying the 30" or 36" ditching bucket first. I have also considered getting a 30" digger and trying to get by for now with that *compromise* bucket (mainly because I know where one is still available fairly cheap!). I decided that last idea was pretty much for the birds.
Certainly can't get both buckets right now. I am so close to broke that it ain't funny anymore. All things considered, including alternative options, the ditching bucket will likely be the one that will have to wait.
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05-17-2008, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulChristenson Get the cleaning bucket...You can always use Big Red for the digging... | But I can also use Big Red's FEL and rake for the cleaning/finishing/ditching bucket's functions.
Drop dead decision day is Tuesday... and I still don't know which way to go.
All I know for sure is that I can't get them both. Not this crazy, high-expense month!!!
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