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**LoneCowboy** · 04-02-2008, 10:00 PM

Gots me a problem
Get to the jobsite this morning and smell something not normal.
hmmm, wander around trailer, touch hubs.
one is burning hot.

Ohhhh, that not good.
not good at all

added a bunch of grease at my 2nd stop, but by the time I got home, it was still cooking.

$hit

off to the trailer place in the morning. not good at all.

Mickey · 04-02-2008, 10:26 PM

LC, if you have brakes on the trailer I'd suspect one of the brakes is not releasing as it should. Before taking it in for service why don't you jack the wheel up and see if it is dragging.

Hope the problem isn't too serious.

**LoneCowboy** · 04-02-2008, 11:10 PM

well, that would be better than a bearing taking a poop
but
it's dark out now
supposed to rain/snow tomorrow

and got an appt at the trailer place 8am tomorrow

we'll just get robbed on it, but it will be fixed (hopefully)

that does make more sense, since the rest of the hubs seem fine and the brakes have gone to **** lately.

Dougster · 04-03-2008, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneCowboy

well, that would be better than a bearing taking a poop
but
it's dark out now
supposed to rain/snow tomorrow

and got an appt at the trailer place 8am tomorrow

we'll just get robbed on it, but it will be fixed (hopefully)

that does make more sense, since the rest of the hubs seem fine and the brakes have gone to **** lately.

Good luck LC!

Hopefully it will be a quick, affordable fix. This is not rocket science after all.

Dougster

**LoneCowboy** · 04-03-2008, 05:07 PM

$377 later

brake spring failed, shoes, braking plate, etc all toast on that one wheel (better than bearings I suppose)

had them check all the rest and repack bearings.

trailer has less than 10,000 miles on it (and I keep it greased)

tires are already coming apart. (guess where they are made, just guess?)

Dougster · 04-03-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneCowboy

tires are already coming apart. (guess where they are made, just guess?)

Ooo Ooo!!!

I know this one!!!

CHINA!!!!!!

Dougster

Dougster · 04-03-2008, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneCowboy

$377 later

brake spring failed, shoes, braking plate, etc all toast on that one wheel (better than bearings I suppose)

had them check all the rest and repack bearings.

trailer has less than 10,000 miles on it (and I keep it greased)

Makes sense... and could have been worse.

My tire and wheel upgrades alone were $640.00 per trailer last season. Thank God that you can afford it 'cause I'd have had to do it myself.

Dougster

**irwin** · 04-03-2008, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneCowboy

$377 later

brake spring failed, shoes, braking plate, etc all toast on that one wheel (better than bearings I suppose)

had them check all the rest and repack bearings.

trailer has less than 10,000 miles on it (and I keep it greased)

tires are already coming apart. (guess where they are made, just guess?)

Well not cheap, but not bad either. Glad it's fixed and you didn't have to replace an axle with hubs, bearings, etc...too bad about the tires, you'll have to take care of them soon..

**PaulChristenson** · 04-04-2008, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneCowboy

tires are already coming apart. (guess where they are made, just guess?)

You might check to see if they were part of this recall...

Foreign Tire Sales Inc., of Union, New Jersey, said an unknown number of the light truck radials it imported since 2002 from Hangzhou Zhongce Rubber Co., of Hangzhou, China, could suffer tread separation, a problem that led to the largest tire recall in the U.S. in 2000.

FTS said an unknown number of the tires it sold were made without a safety feature, called a gum strip, which helps bind the belts of a tire to each other, the company said in a filing to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Some of the tires had a gum strip about half the 0.6 millimeter width that FTS expected, it said.

Heather Hopkins, a spokeswoman for NHTSA, said its enforcement officials spoke to FTS on Monday to "let them know we want a full tire recall to take place."

"It is FTS' responsibility to do this," Hopkins said.

FTS failed to add a "remedy" in its June 11 filing, which is essentially a description of how a company will notify customers and provide proper consumer compensation, Hopkins said.

FTS attorney Lawrence N. Lavigne said the tires appear to meet federal standards but could still pose a risk to motorists.

"FTS, at great expense, investigated this," Lavigne said. The company, which has about a half-dozen employees, does not have the money to pay for a recall, he said.

FTS does not have a warehouse. It has tires shipped directly to distributors, who in turn send them to retail outlets, Lavigne said.

FTS said it believes other importers also sold such tires made by Hangzhou Zhongce. The Chinese company has failed to provide information that would allow FTS to determine exactly how many tires, and which batches, have the problem, Lavigne said.

According to the filing, the Hangzhou tires at issue were sold under at least four brand names - Westlake, Compass, Telluride and YKS - in these sizes: LT235/75R-15; LT225/75R-16; LT235/85R-16; LT245/75R-16; LT265/75R-16; and LT3X10.5-15.

FTS on May 31 sued Hangzhou in U.S. District Court in Newark, charging that its tests found that the tires may fail earlier than those originally provided by Hangzhou, and that a recall would put FTS out of business. The lawsuit seeks unspecified monetary damages and an injunction that would bar Hangzhou products from being imported.

The lawsuit was reported Monday by The Wall Street Journal.

A Hangzhou Zhongce spokesman contacted by The Associated Press in China said he could not immediately comment. A Hangzhou official reached by the Journal said: "We are aware of this matter, and we are now in the process of responding to the lawsuit. Production and sales at our company remain normal."

FTS said it became concerned about Hangzhou tires in October 2005 amid an increase in warranty claims and began talks with the Chinese company, and then commissioned its own tests.

FTS was sued in Philadelphia on May 4 by the families of two men killed when a van they were riding in crashed last year. Also suing are the driver and passenger in the van, which the lawsuits claim had Hangzhou tires.

The largest tire recall in the U.S. involved 14.7 million Firestone tires in 2000, said Sean Kane, president of Safety Research & Strategies, a consumer group. "I wouldn't expect this to rise to that number," he said.

FTS, in its filing, said it sold Hangzhou tires to these distributors: Tireco, Compton, California; Strategic Import Supply, Wayzata, Minnesota; Omni United USA Inc., Jacksonville, Florida; Orteck International Inc. of Gaithersburg, Maryland; K&D Tire Wholesalers LLC, Carlsbad, California; and Robinson Tire in Laurel, Mississippi.

Associated Press Writer Matthew Verrinder in Trenton contributed to this report.

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**LoneCowboy** · 04-04-2008, 09:42 AM

I've already had one set of worthless POS made in China explode on a trailer (totally replaced with made in america tires) (different trailer)
i've decided just to run these til they explode
they aren't going to be cheap. I always have a jack (tractor) with me and it's got a spare. Just no real point in dropping another $600 plus dollars (load range G, I'm sure they are going to be cheap, not)

but yeah, better than having to replace the spindle
pretty damn unhappy overall though. $9000 trailer, less than a year old.